Sir John Lyon (1340-1382)

Sir John Lyon
Born circa 1340 Angusshire Scotland
Son of Sir John Lyon Baron of Forteviot
Appointed Thane of Glamis in 1372 by King Robert II
Married 4th October 1376 Lady Johanna (Jean) Stewart and by the marriage became the Thane of Tannadyce
Killed in a duel 11th August 1382
Buried at Scone Abbey

Lady Johanna (Jean) Stewart
Born about 1350 Dundonald Ayrshire Scotland
Daughter of Robert II and Elizabeth Mure
Married 1st Sir John Keith (died)
Married 3rd James Sandilands of Calder
Buried at Scone Abbey

Children of Sir John Lyon and Lady Johanna Stewart:

  1. John Lyon (Master of Glamis)
    Born circa 1377 [1380]Angusshire Scotland
    Married Elizabeth Graham
    Died 1435

 

Sir John Lyon was a remarkable man, appearing to have arrived from nowhere to become an Auditor of the Chamberlain, Secretary to King David II, Keeper of the Privy Seal and then, nine years after his arrival and one year after marrying the King’s daughter, Chamberlain of Scotland to King Robert II.

Soon after his marriage in 1377 King Robert Knighted Sir John, raised the thaneage of Glamis to a feudal barony, and appointed him Chamberlain of Scotland. Sir John served as the Chamberlain from 1377 until his death in 1382.

On 11th August 1382 [other sources say 4th November] Sir John Lyon was killed in a duel at Balhall near Menmuir in Angus, by Sir James Lindsay of Crawford, Scotland’s ambassador to England.

Sir John was succeeded by his only son [another Sir John Lyon]

Other Facts:

  • First appointed to a position at the Scottish court (possibly Secretary to King David II) sometime prior to 1368
  • Appointed one of the Auditors of the Chamberlain on 13th January 1368/9
  • Started acquiring properties as early as 1367
  • from the Earl of Ross in 1367
  • from John de Hay in 1368
  • Appointed Keeper of the Privy Seal upon the accession of King Robert II in 1371
  • In 18th March 1372 King Robert II granted Sir John the Royal estate of Glamis (home of Macbeth in the eleventh century) along with the Thanage of Glamis.
  • By his marriage to Lady Joanna became Thane of Tannadyce (jure uxoris) (Later Baron Kinghorne)
  • Served as Keeper of Edinburgh Castle from 1375 until his death in 1382
  • Knighted sometime prior to 1377
  • Appointed Chamberlain of Scotland on 20th October 1377 and served in this position until his death
With Sir John Lyon we have somewhat of a mystery as to why an unknown could rise so high in such a short time (royal marriages being affairs of state and not arranged lightly), and for which we have only one clue, Sir John’s Coat-of-Arms. The earliest recorded version of Sir John Lyon’s Coat-of-Arms is shown on the extreme left:
“Argent a lion rampant Azure riband Grules”The riband Grules being a differencing charge added to a base coat-of-arms “Argent a lion rampant Azure”
When one looks at the arms without the riband (shown on the extreme right), although not necessarily obvious to a casual observer today, in the 14th century all who saw the Lyon arms would have recognized them as a differenced version of the Bruce family, the Lords of Skelton in England since the late eleventh century.The possibility that anyone in the 14th century could have used arms that proclaimed such a connection without just cause can be dismissed immediately. Heraldry in those years was far too important a system of communication to be abused in such a way, especially at the Scottish court itself, the centre of the nation. In those heraldry-literate times Argent a lion rampant Azure meant Bruce of Skelton, the family from which had sprung the forefathers of Robert the Bruce, father of David II, the king that John first served. And although the Bruce line in Scotland had borne the Annandale arms, they had not forgotten their blue lion. It appeared on a silver chief in the Annandale arms borne by the father and great-grandfather of Robert the Bruce, and on his tomb.

So in summary, we have a stranger becoming Secretary to the King and bearing a differenced version of that King’s own family’s original arms, a man with no history who goes on to marry a daughter of that King’s successor and to possess one of the highest offices in the kingdom. He could not have been a mere stranger, he must have had a history, and here thus is a pausible case for him having been a kinsman of the royal family.

Sir John’s cost-of-arms after his marriage to Jonanna Stewart (above), the riband gules being replaced by the double tressure flory counter-flory, armed and langued Grules being added.

Additional Notes:

ThaneA title given to a local royal official who was at the head of an administrative unit known as a shire or thanage

Sir John Lyon is widely accepted as being the progenitor of Clan Lyon in Scotland, a claim verified by Sir Iain Moncreiffe of that Ilk, a renowned Scottish historian

The origins of the Lyon Family are French, the family name being an anglicized version of the Norman de Leonne

Sir John Lyon is an ancestor of the Queen Mother (the former Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon) and of Queen Elizabeth II

Descendants of Sir John Lyon and Lady Johanna Stewart

Sir John Lyon (Master of Glamis)
Born circa 1377
Son of Sir John Lyon and Lady Johanna Stewart
married Elizabeth Graham
(daughter of Sir Patrick Graham and Euphemia Stewart)
Died circa 1435

Children of Sir John Lyon and Elizabeth Graham:

  1. Patrick Lyon (1st Lord Glamis)
    Born 1402

Patrick Lyon (1st Lord Glamis)
Born 1402
Son of Sir John Lyon and Elizabeth Graham
married Isabel Ogilvie
(daughter of Sir Walter Ogilvie of Lintrethan Treasurer of Scotland)
Died circa 1459

Children of Patrick Lyon and Isabel Ogilvie:

  1. AlexanderLyon (2nd Lord Glamis)
  2. John Lyon (3rd Lord Glamis)
  3. William Lyon of Peetanya
  4. Elizabeth Lyon
    Married Alexander Robertson of Strowane

Alexander Lyon (2nd Lord Glamis)
Born 1430
Son of Patrick Lyon and Isabel Ogilvie
Married Agnes Crichton
(daughter of William Crichton 1st Lord Crichton and Chancellor of Scotland)
Died 1486 with no surviving children

John Lyon (3rd Lord Glamis)
Born 1431
Son of Patrick Lyon and Isabel Ogilvie
Married Elizabeth Scrymgeour
(daughter of John Scrymgeour of Dudhope Constable of Dundee)
Died 1497

Children of John Lyon and Elizabeth Scrymgeour:

  1. John Lyon (4th Lord Glamis)
  2. David Lyon of Cossins
    killed at the Battle of Flodden in 1513
  3. William Lyon
    killed at the Battle of Flodden in 1513
  4. George Lyon
    killed at the Battle of Flodden in 1513
  5. daughter
  6. daughter
  7. daughter
  8. daughter
  9. daughter
  10. daughter
  11. daughter

John Lyon (4th Lord Glamis)
Son of John Lyon and Elizabeth Scrymgeour
Married Elizabeth Gray
(daughter of Andrew Lord Gray)
Died circa 1500

Children of John Lyon and Elizabeth Gray:

  1. George Lyon (5th Lord Glamis)
  2. John Lyon (6th Lord Glamis)

George Lyon (5th Lord Glamis)
Son of John Lyon and Elizabeth Gray
Died 1505 no children

John Lyon (6th Lord Glamis)
Born circa 1491
Son of John Lyon and Elizabeth Gray
Married Janet Douglas (burned as a witch 1537)
(daughter of George Douglas Master of Angus)
Died 1528

Children of John Lyon and Janet Douglas:

  1. John Lyon (7th Lord Glamis)
    Born 1521

John Lyon (7th Lord Glamis)
Born circa 1521
Son of John Lyon and Janet Douglas
Married Janet Keith
(daughter of Robert Keith Master of Marischal)
Died circa 1558

Children of John Lyon and Janet Keith:

  1. John Lyon (8th Lord Glamis)
  2. Thomas Lyon
  3. Margaret Lyon
    Married 1st Gilbert Kennedy 4th Earl of Cassilis
    Married 2nd John Hamilton 1st Marquess of Hamilton.

John Lyon (8th Lord Glamis)
Born circa 1544
Son of John Lyon and Janet Keith
Married Elizabeth Abernethy
(daughter of Alexander Abernethy 6th Lord Saltoun
Died 1578

Children of John Lyon and Janet Keith:

  1. Patrick Lyon (1st Earl of Kinghorn)
  2. Jean Lyon
    Married 1st Robert Douglas younger of Lochleven
    Married 2nd Archibald Douglas 8th Earl of Angus
    Married 3rd Alexander Lindsay 1st Lord Spynie
  3. Elizabeth Lyon
    Married Patrick Gray 6th Lord Gray

Patrick Lyon (9th Lord Glamis and 1st Earl of Kinghorn)
Born 1575
Son of John Lyon and Janet Keith
Died 1615

Children of Patrick Lyon and :

  1. John Lyon (2nd Earl of Kinghorne)
    Born 1596

John Lyon (2nd Earl of Kinghorne)
Born 1596
Son of Patrick Lyon
Died 1646

Children of John Lyon:

  1. Patrick Lyon (3rd Earl of Kinghorne)
  2. Elizabeth Lyon
    Married 1662 Charles Gordon 1st Earl of Aboyne

 

Sources:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lyon,_1st_Thane_of_Glamis

Lyon Family Genealogy

The Scots peerage XIII Balfour Paul, Sir James (1904) Edinburgh: D. Douglas. pp. 262–268.

The Lyons of Cossins and Wester Ogil Andrew Ross (1901). Edinburgh: G. Waterston & Sons. pp. 4–8.

www.baronage.co.uk

www.glamis-castle.co.uk

www.kylefamily.us/id50.htm

http://www.stirnet.com/lyon01 (webpage has since been moved)

http://www.stirnet.com/lyon02 (webpage has since been moved)

http://www.theclanmuir.org (webpage has since been moved)

http://www.burkes-peerage.net (webpage has since been moved)

www.camelotintl.com

www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotga

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